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Post by NRR Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:46 pm

http://www.ruefrontenac.com/nouvelles-generales/55-enjeux/19444-manif-brutalite-police


Le SPVM veut interdire les cagoules dans les manifestations

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« Il faisait 12 degrés et c’était très ensoleillé. Si des gens portaient des cagoules, c’était pour se cacher. S’ils se cachent, c’est possiblement parce qu’ils veulent commettre des délits », analyse simplement l’inspecteur-chef Sylvain Lemay, responsable de la Division de la planification opérationnelle du SPVM.

Copd still wants to outlaw masks. Nothing has been adopter by lawmakers, thought...
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Post by EaterofCake Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:02 am

BAWW.

Can we write a friendly poon to the cops? Mention our 2+ years of peaceful protests, and how we're masked to protect us from the Scilons, not the police, etc etc?
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:35 am

inb4tinfoil

I thought about it for some time and how strange, I was right. They gonna use the Police Brutality protest to shit on the masks.

Try to poon them but, I don't think it will work.

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Post by Major Boyle Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:58 am

Like I said. This smells of a sci setup. If they get to ban masks, all Anons in Montreal would be facefagged.
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Post by EaterofCake Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:50 am

Sci? Doubt it. The cops had something about trying to ban masks in the past, remember?
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Post by NRR Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:03 am

Major Boyle wrote:Like I said. This smells of a sci setup. If they get to ban masks, all Anons in Montreal would be facefagged.

1) Cops are fighting for this for years, way before Anonymous campaigned against scienotlogy. Scilons have nothing to do with it (even thought they might rejoice of such legislation)

2) Even if such legislation goes through, I have several hints from others Anons around the world on how to hide your identity without using a mask. Mask situation: here we go again... Icon_wink
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Post by Major Boyle Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:02 am

Depends on how the law is phrased. If it says mask you could use a scarf. But if it says that you have to leave a certain percentage of your face visible, then you're hosed.
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Post by EaterofCake Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:05 pm

Then the whole city would be screwed in the winter when the weather hits -20 and lower. Everyone covers their faces with scarves, hoods and so on. I've seen people more wrapped up than we are.
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Post by puck35 Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:41 pm

Any such law would face a Charter challenge. It seems to me that a municipal government getting into the area of Charter-guaranteed freedoms (peaceful assembly, here), even if only slightly, is out of its jurisdiction.
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Post by Wave Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:00 pm

for the sake of bawwwwww

they shouldn't be so stupid to label people dangerous just because of a mask, we announce to the police when we do raid, we stay peaceful and not riot, we are no threat to the public. The masks actually help with the protests. It works and helps people!
Retards who go commit actual crimes (unlike the ones viewed by Co$) do need to be identified and taken to justice.

So some people showed up at the riot with masks, so what. If a person gets arrested, then they get identified, their own bloody fault. What do the police think they will get out of such an act of banning masks? Is it going to stop people from rioting, I doubt it, nor is it going to make them not want to protest into things that turn into riots.

Some people are a hazard to society, then there are some who, like us, are cooperative, understanding, law abiding anonymous citizens.
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Post by Major Boyle Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:46 pm

Cops want it so they can identify ringleaders at protests. Plenty of protests are being organized by groups and people who are paid to do so.

Thing is, it's not the organizers who are getting busted, it's the low level rock-throwing idiots who have been encouraged by the organizers to throw rocks.
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Post by Major Boyle Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:47 pm

We need a press release from Montreal Anonymous decrying the policy and mentioning the fair gaming policy.
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Post by Wave Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:27 pm

ah thank you for that...
well how could we go about getting this argument to the public? is a press release really the best solution? who would do it, who would publish it, and how can it all be done anonymously?
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Post by Guy_Fox Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:49 pm

I doubt this crap will ever go through.

EVEN IF, I'm sure we'd be fine if we nicely ask for permission. When asking the police for a green light on our protest, we'd also ask for permission to use masks, justified by some really good references on fair game, as well as ask for their presence in the area if possible.

I don't think this will ever be necessary, though.
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Post by EaterofCake Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:07 pm

This is why I asked if poons were needed. Perhaps to a local newspaper like the Gazette? They had an article on the cops call for a mask ban today.
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Post by Major Boyle Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:08 pm

Poon all the local media. The story is in the news nao so any followup or controversy is a good way for Anonymous to get its name in the papers or on TV and to oppose this draconian bullshit/
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Post by lolxenu Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:48 am

Maybe send a copy to Patrick Lagacée, he kinda like us I think... And he's still working for La Presse.

Also mention how masks are sometimes used during demonstration for dramatic purposes (i.e: Greenpeace wearing gas mask when protesting against the nuclear industry)
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Post by EaterofCake Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:28 pm

Also mention that we are masked due to the Scilon's fair game policy, we're not masked due to the police.
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Post by Major Boyle Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:17 pm

Also, why do police need to unmask all people? Why not arrest those who commit crimes. If they continue to commit crimes, punish them with stiffer sentences.
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Post by EaterofCake Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:57 pm

I've seen a lot of people masked against the flu, what about muslim ladies wearing the hijab too?
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Post by Guy_Fox Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:14 pm

This is why the idea failed the last time, and will fail again.
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Post by EaterofCake Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:48 am

Can someone write a good letter that we can poon from the website's e-mail? I'm no letterfag. ):
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Post by puck35 Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:54 am

I could write something effective and eloquent, but we'd have to decide first what we want to say.
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Post by EaterofCake Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:23 pm

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Post by Mangrove Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:03 pm

Undercover cops were wearing masks at the COBP protest... That must be because they had criminal intentions. Mask situation: here we go again... Icon_neutral

This kind of law they want to be voted is just like the one who forbids to play hockey in the streets. Police will never harass you because you don't follow the rules, unless you are a troublemaker.

Nevertheless, asking us to uncover our faces during a protest would be against our civil liberties.
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